Interview with Triple
7/21/04 - LatinRapper.com exclusive interview
Years before "Lean Back",
years before Terror Squad dropped their first album, there
was Ruff & Rugged. The crew, consisting of artists Triple
Seis, Cuban Link, and the legendary Big Pun (then known as
Big Moon Dog), would later take on new member "Toom" (aka
Prospect) and become Full-A-Clips Crew, the doors opening
to them thanks to Pun's success. The four would eventually
join Terror Squad, yet after a debut album and Pun's
passing, Seis and Cuban jumped ship amidst swirling rumors
of beef within the group.
The Bronx Dominicano went
his own way, collaborating with various artists until signing
to Madd Records and recording his debut solo, "Time'll Tell".
With his album dropping this summer, Seis spoke with
LatinRapper about his career, being friends with Pun before
the music, and his thoughts on Terror Squad.
LatinRapper.com: It's been a few years since we've heard
your name, what have you been up to?
Well I been underground a lot, just doing a lot of dropping
white labels. I dropped a single with Fat Beats, from there I
did a lot of mixtapes, keeping my name on the streets. Then I
went on the Rock the Vote tour. Just the love the Beatnuts had
for me, I opened up. I also worked on dropping my own album
with Cuban my brother, Ice T and the Beatnuts, I kept grinding
and kept pushing and someone is gonna put the independent
album out, which is Madd Records.
Tell us a bit about your debut album.
Well the album is called "Only Time Will Tell", not only
‘cause of the timing, but just a theory I had in life that
time will tell anything, I live by that model. I still fell
that there is more time on my album, the next one is in
development, its gonna get better like fine wine, gotta stay
focused and have more drive.
Who did you work with on the album?
You got Ice-T, you got Cuban Link, you got Trigger Tha
Gambler, you got Psycho Les, you got a lot of unknown guys I'm
trying to put on. (For beats) We have Mayor, he works with Joe
Buddens, I got Rich Kid, Antonio, I got Hellraiser, probably
people you never heard of in your life but I choose them
because the music is good. I could have gone to Alchemist and
got some beats from him, but you know it was about the timing,
I really had to get this done, I dealt with people with hot
beats, everything fell into place.
Who have you been collaborating with outside of your own
Well I just did the Beatnuts new album, of course, the love is
there. I'm also working on my own mixtape, I'm doing a mixtape
with Tony Touch, of course I'mma be on it freestyling, but
other music too. I think I'mma have the first mixtape that
might get me a distribution deal (laughs). I'm on Cuban's new
album coming out that September on MOB records called "Chain
Reaction", Cuban's my brother right there, I live and die for
You're from the Bronx but chose a deal with a Canadian
based hip hop label, how did that come about?
I was there ‘cause I always wanted to go overseas [outside of
the U.S.] and I see that overseas still love the culture of
hip hop. They still understand the music, the underground of
the music, its not all about commercial that you gotta sing on
every hook and make people dance. Well, if a label wanna deal
with me overseas that's a plus. ‘Cause I could have dealt with
Landspeed or Koch, but I thought this is a good thing.
just to open up more doors, you know ‘cause at the time I took
this deal, Cuban didn't have a deal, so I was trying to open
the doors either way, but right now he's signed to a great
label and he's opening up the doors for me. And at the end of
the day we are doing this for Pun, ‘cause he definitely opened
up the doors for me and him, he always had our back.
Cuban is opening the doors, does that mean you will go to
Yeah, as far as if I go anywhere else, him and his label
definitely would like to deal with me, they would like to help
me out and put me out there. I love and respect what MOB is
doing for him, he has a great chance on selling millions of
copies of records, I know he has my back, and I have his back.
So he would be executive producer on my album. And my focus is
not too much on the negative part of the music, ‘cause you
know there is, but my focus is to be successful and climb the
ladder so when I get to the top my ladder wont be on shaky
Lets talk about Big Pun for a moment, people visit your
site and see pics of you in front of a mural of him. What was
your relationship with Pun when you were coming up in music?
Well my relationship with Pun was way before music, we met as
kids. First time we really hooked up and kicked it was when we
played basketball on the court. Pun was the Boricua Jordan at
the time. Even at that time I was into the music ‘cause of my
brother, but Pun wasn't. I'm sure he was in love with it at
the time ‘cause that was the music of our generation, but he
didn't really get into it until I would be at his crib and he
saw me writing battle rhymes. And he got me into R&B ‘cause he
would play joints and he would sing. His first rhyme, it was
called "Brothers Ride the John" (laughs, sings a verse from
it). His second rhyme was fire, and he never looked back.
He was real witty, you know, even before he started writing
rhymes, he was a real smart person. He took everything like I
told him and took it in and advanced it. He knew how to take
something and master it.
Looking back, how do you remember Pun?
As a big brother, as a real true life friend. You know......
He never did nothing to nobody that he felt they didn't
deserve his mood swings, whether it was good or bad. And a lot
of things I look back now that we disagreed on, I see his
reasons after the fact.
In the beginning there was Full-A-Clips with you, Pun and
Cuban. A lot of people want to know if there is still
Full-A-Clips music on tape somewhere to hear.
There is Full-A-Clips music, I don't know where most of it is,
but we did a lot of songs. There are a couple verses out there
people probably never heard. We just got to wait for the right
timing, ‘cause everything is timing. But his son is coming,
Baby Pun, you're gonna hear his lyrics right through him.
Right now Terror Squad is back in the press. After Pun
passed, you and Cuban left T.S., but there hasn't been much
discussion about why you left, care to speak on that?
After Pun passed, I left right away, Cuban stayed for another
year, ‘cause that's when Flowers For The Dead and Still Tellin'
Lies came out but got bootlegged. But I been left, you ain't
even see me in the video in Puerto Rico. We sittin' in Folsom
market and I told Fat Joe "I don't wanna be down with this no
more, I wanna do my own thing." Fat Joe said, "What? That's
what you wanna do? You can't have Terror Squad affiliations no
I shook his hand and I left. People couldn't believe it
but it was true, ‘cause I knew the person who had my back was
gone. I had no beef when I left, but deep down inside I knew
that I would never have my opportunity to shine if I stayed, I
can do that on my own.
No disrespect intended to Geddy, but does that somewhat
reflect what some people had said about Armageddon knowing Joe
for 10 years and still not getting a solo album?
Exactly. You think you get to the point in your mind when you
think, I'm just a follower, I'm just there like (mumbles like
delivery guy) "Whatever you need. This. Here" Input this,
input that, but you aren't being a successful business man or
So are you still friends with anyone from Terror Squad?
Well, I don't hang out with none of them. Lets say if I see
Prospect, I give him dap, I won't turn my face or back on him.
I see them, I acknowledge them, and they acknowledge me, then
that's all its gonna be. They know that I roll with Cuban,
that Cuban's my brother, and Cuban feels a certain way about
them. I don't have that same bad taste in my mouth but I feel
bad about how that situation went down, and I know who my true
friend is, Cuban. So how can I not be at his aid or at his
side, then I'm not being true to myself or his surroundings.
Who are some of the artists that you are feeling at the
I always love Jadakiss, always got love for Styles, always had
love for Mos Def, I feel Ghostface, Imma old school cat, you
know. I like LLoyd banks, Eminem is always gonna be up there
with us ‘cause I remember him, I actually remember him when he
was openin' up for House of Blues tour. Ever since then I knew
Eminem would be somebody. I even brought him up one day to
meet Pun. So I brought him up there, he met Pun, they gave
each other dap, couple months later I heard he signed with
Dre, I was like whoah.
If you had never gotten into the rap game, what do you
think you would be doing right now?
I would be owning a business, probably either a truck driving
business or a real estate business, ‘cause I had a CDL license
before I had a record contract. I came from a family that
worked, we didn't inherit nothing. That's what they taught me.
Even now I would be happy if the rap industry died, if Bush
put a hold on rap, I'd still be a man and I'd still be
comfortable with my life, I still know I'd be somebody ‘cause
I'm able to adjust. Its just my way of thinking.
What do you see in the future of Triple Seis?
I see things getter better, honestly. This album is gonna come
out, it is what it is, its gonna touch some people ‘cause
there are some songs on there that are deep. But then from
here, the next deal, especially if I roll with my brother and
his label its gonna be big. ‘Cause he's gonna executive
produce the album.
I know if I go with MOB its gonna be a big
thing, and that's not takin' nothing away from Madd Records
‘cause everything is a ladder to success, Madd Records is an
independent company, I can't expect them to do major things.
Take it for what it is and what its worth.
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